“A young Saudi Arabian woman was murdered by her father for chatting on the social network site Facebook. The unnamed woman from Riyadh was beaten and shot after she was discovered in the middle of an online conversation with a man, the al-Arabiya website reported.
The case was reported on a Saudi Arabian news site as an example of the “strife” the social networking site is causing in the Islamic nation. Saudi preacher Ali al-Maliki has emerged as the leading critic of Facebook, claiming the network is corrupting the youth of the nation. “Facebook is a door to lust and young women and men are spending more on their mobile phones and the Internet than they are spending on food,” he said. “
I know we say we live in the lucky country but never is it more obvious than in circumstances like these.
Like the woman sentenced to death for naming a children’s teddy-bear Mohammed, these situations sicken and enrage the average person let-alone a woman as myself!
I have often thought, what can I do about it? I would love to travel over there and do something personally about it but I have realised that like our fore-mothers in the western world have done for our women’s rights, like the african-americans did for their equality, they have to take up this fight themself.
I could go over there and try and give them the courage and awareness even to do so but to carry it out they have to fully believe in it themself and right now it is obvious, as a collective they do not! Unfortunately, they are too entrenched in their own religion and culture to even be aware of their rights as a living creature let alone as a woman.
This may seem a little naive but I still think, that if we cared more, in this day and age, we would find a way to help them; our sisters.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/31/wsaudi131.xml
Decide For Yourself 
You know, I’m always a little worried when I see how people in the west react to things like this. There is this interesting, initial assumption, that when things like this make the papers in the Arab World that what has been reported, actually happened. I’m no expert on Middle Eastern Culture, but, even I know that what you read in the papers (anywhere), isn’t always the way things happened. I find that in Saudi as well as other places in Asia, what you think you are hearing, and what you think you are seeing, probably isn’t what you think it is. In fact, I’ve learned that if what you think is happening, is actually happening, you’ve probably been had. I would suggest that when anyone comes across something like this your first thoughts shouldn’t be, “these people are cruel and foolish, wonder why this happened?” But, should be “These people are as smart and caring as I am, wonder what really happened?”
hi i am a 20 years old Saudi women i use facebook allday long and used zorpia and tagged before it.
i never been beaten or threaten by any member of my family.
all the women in my family are well educated and are working.
i will not lie and say that Saudi Arabia is perfect country that gives us our full right that we were givin by the islamic law(plz dont believe what u see and hear about the islamic law and if u want to talk about it plz read about it before u talk)
but niether the western countries are perfect.
since u are talking about this girl that she was killed by her sick father lets talk about the man in Austria who kept his daughter in the basement for 24 years and raped her and had 7 children from her isn’t he sick?
and every day we hear stories about fathers who are abusing thier daugters or wives.
and i really i hope that when u talk about the sick stories that happens in saudi arabia dont think that the majority of the ppl living here are like this.
but the thing that i hate the most i s that i cant drive and i really really love driving 😦
P.S Saudi’s are not terrorist and we dont hate u guys we just hate the stuped government that are killing women and children in the muslim countries :S
thank u
Hi sara,
It was nice see your comment about the parents and the saudi government…
Its really nice
Shoibaan, India
Sara, You are so right! There is alot more bad things in here than over there. We have rapes kidnapping and murders ever hour in the united states. I raised my 4 children in Jordan for 4.5 years. And it was safer there than in America as far as worring if my child would be kid napped, havbe peer pressure to have sex and do drugs. It is always horrible to hear about incidents that Cilla is speaking of but they are family situation not the norm. So peole are very strick and I dont care if you are Muslim, Christian, Amish, Mormen people in all religions go to extreme and we as outsiders do not always believe or understand why they do. But Cilla do not sit in judgement or think that it is a horrible country. The middle East is a beautiful place nad they have the moral values and respect of family life that America once had inthe 1900’s.
Hi Sara,
Thank you for your comment.
Your positive story is good to hear and gives one faith in such matters.
P.S. We aren’t always in agreeance with our Government’s decisions.
C.
im a saudi teenager , a princess ,
i know about saudi laws and the goverment , trust me!
saudi isnt as closed minded as people think it is , if it was then y am i online ?! , and im royalty , all my family members are in the goverment !
these stories are only regognized when happining in anywhere in the moddle east !
if u really care about helping girls who are abused help girls in contries like the US or the UK.. there are waaay more problems there!
p.s, i live in New York!
yep ur right anonymos princess
Maybe you are online because you are royalty, prabably the same reason why you were sent abroad to be educated… (living in n.y. helps being online as well)
all u say is true
you princess, sure you should defend the conservatives. your dad is serving them and maybe your family is being fed by this system. As a trader I usually travel to Saudi and witness how your police behaves in a savage way with its people. Once they forced me to go to mosque and pray while I never do prayership. They didnot allow me to tell them I don’t believe in God. They give no space for any opponents.
Hi anonymos,
Thank you for your comment.
I have to say though, that I am aware of the vast difference in circumstances between the rich and the poor in that part of the world.
I wonder how many are as fortunate as you.
I am from AUSTRALIA.
C.
Hey
I am from Riyadh, Saudi. I want to say what My sister Sara has said earlier. In addition to she said, I believe that each country in the worl has specific tradition, thus, we (should) respect that anyway.
I see most women in many countries including my country are very educated and have their own rights to do whatever they want, BUT sometimes they have housholders , mostly parents, to control and force them to do what these houshloders want and practice their authority over them. Finally, the bad acts from the housholders in Saudi Arabia are from their, housholders, own culture NOT from Islam.
I hope that my point is understandable.
🙂
Thank you.
Best wishes.
Amen Ahmed. You have said it so correctly it is not Islam as a reigion it is the individual family in how strict they are.
It is that way in all religions.
Hi Ahmed,
Thank you for your comment.
I agree, traditions should be respected but I do believe that human rights should NEVER be interfered with no matter what country or tradition.
People are more important than traditions, they/we should be respected above all.
Yes, each household may act in their own right but when they act unlawfully that is what governments are for.
Laws are there to protect the people, not control them. If there are no laws as such in place then there needs to be.
Cheers,
C.
Hey C 🙂
I’m a Saudi girl.. of course we didn’t get all of our rights here which Islam gave to us as Mulsim women, because in Saudi Arabia we Saudi women lack many of our rights here because of following and believing in some old & backward traditions and customs which has nothing to do with our peacefull religion Islam.
And today we Saudi women are fighting for our whole rights that we deserved and given since beginning of our great religion.
Yes, there are many women who suffer in my society, but NOT all Saudi women are the same, we also have educated and nice men here,
Men in my family are kind and respect all women.
I have a cell phone and and my own computer, and I surf the internet whenever I want, and in my room.
I’m a working woman; I work as a journalist and at the same time I’m a secretary in The Human Rights commision of Saudi Arabia, and I live a very good life… What I mean, is that Saudi women aren’t jailed like many people think about us in other countries.
And the most important thing to say, is that Islam is not responsible for human rights violations, violence, and terrorism…. Islam is the religion of peace, love, and good manners, but u know bad people are everywhere, even in your country there are good and bad people….. no body is perfect! that’s the way it is!
If u want to know what is Islam and how Islam respect women best, check out this website:
http://www.islam-guide.com/
Peace!
G
if u still na blev da wat da abov personz sa dan fuk ur self betch n go to hell….
not saudi but lov da plac
Hmm……no comment necessary.
C.
For a rather different perspective on Saudi Arabia than those above and from someone who has lived and worked there, I recommend Ed Hussain’s book ‘The Islamist’ which is an autobiographical account of a London born Muslim, who became a fundamentalist in his teens but later rejected political Islamism and was drawn to Sufism. He spent some time first in Syria then in Saudi teaching English and in his book he reveals how the latter country is even more barbaric and inhumane than are inclined to think.
He was horrified by the racist mentality of the people. He went to see the Karantina area of Jeddah for himself and describes the day he spent there as the worst in his life: in this oil-rich nation he found a place where thousands of African illegal immigrants had been “abandoned, quite literally, under a flyover”. That they are Muslims themselves counts for nothing – they are condemned to a life of misery, poverty, squalor, prostitution and disease. “Muslims enjoy a better lifestyle in non-Muslm Britain than in Saudi Arabia,” he writes. He describes how Saudis habitually call black people “niggers” and how they view Hitler as some kind of hero.
He also described his astonishment at the unashamed attention men paid to his own hijab-wearing wife and the treatment of women in general. His colleagues and students – who evidently trusted him as someone of Saudi origin – told stories of women and men being abducted and raped and of the total obsession with pornography. (Students would use the British Council computers to access hardcore porn because they couldn’t see it anywhere else). Saudis he met readily admitted that the fact women are segregated and forced to cover themselves leads to a very unhealthy mentality. He writes, “Millions of young Saudis were not allowed to let their sexuality blossom naturally and, as a result, they could see the opposite gender only as sex objects.”
No, we are not without our problems in the West. But the difference, as Hussain points out, is that at least we are open about our problems and not trying to deny them or cover them up.
Hi Cilla,
Thanks for your insightful report regarding women’s life in Saudi Arabia. I am a Persian(Iranian) student in Canada and have faced with that people here think that the condition and situation is the same as Saudi Arabia for women in Iran. Probably you think the same, but I have lived 22 years in Iran and have never seen such events. People think all islamic countries are the same, but it is not. I just wonder if you could provide us with an insightful report about women’s condition in my country, Iran. I declare that women’s condition in Iran should improve but it is not as complicated as Arabic countries.
I wish you a merry Christmas and all the best in new year,
Arian
Piece be on you, how do we define our rights in a society that already have judge us as caveman how treats their woman as probates rather than a person ! It is a lost cause, I fight for what all know is right love and kindness . but in the name of humanity are we the refection that defends our religion!!!!! That is 1oo% right but most of us have lost the way, if you are saying that human rights is lost in Saudi Arabia then why do you career ? is it because you are a famines our you are a good person how don’t like crawl men? If so, then Our woman have their rights and no one will demolish that ! no sick act of temporally insane person how lost it ! will take that and I’m sad for him he lost his little girl for anger .” Saudi woman they know what they want where and how to achieve it, only time will reveal the cloud that had been shaded on Saudi woooo-man, their name is part of us man which mean they are half the society “.
Hi I’m saudi arabia
sorry i don’t have time but i wont say
For all the talk is not true .. The picture presented seems to be related to
Another problem ..
Saudi Arabia has given full freedom to the men and women ..
I now live in Britain .. I think that women in Britain only
Played at a time is aimed at young people and old age!
Is this freedom
sorry abut that 😦 I think This is true ?
تحياتي لكم سبينر
I am appalled at the complete and utter denial of the way women have been and continue to be treated in parts of the world, especially the Middle East.
There are countless books written by account of Saudi Arabian women. Read “Princess” by Jean P. Sasson. If you don’t feel ashamed at silencing this brave Saudi princesses’ voice by denying her struggle, then shame on you.
Violence happens everywhere. But in a world where 13 year old children are “forced to marry men five times their age, young women killed by drowning, stoning or isolation in the “woman’s room”, a padded, windowless cell where women are confined with neither light nor conversation until death claims them, Servants are forced into sexual servitude and severely beaten if they attempt escape”, this type of violence, control and complete and utter lack for womens’ rights as human beings is abhorrent. And these acts weren’t “rare occurrences”. These were atrocities that happen every single day to all women from all walks of life, even those born of the Royal Family. This account of one woman’s life was told a mere 20 years ago. Women weren’t even considered to be of value higher than that of dirt 20 years ago, and yet everyone wants to proclaim that they now have equal rights to Western women and that Western women need the help more so?
Not all women in all Middle Eastern societies are treated this way; just as not all men are bad. I do not blame religion for the way the men have oppressed their women, instead I blame the men for bending their religion to work for them.
All I’m saying is the atrocities committed by the men on a large scale all over the world, including Saudi Arabia, should not be ignored or denied by anyone, especially by women.
Rachel, I also read the book ‘Princess’ and I have never ever cried so much in my whole life. The very fact that a Saudi Arabian princess had to witness her sister being forced to marry an old man and then attempt to commit suicide because of the brutality that was brought upon her made me sick. As I got further into the book I then became more sickened as I read the account of how the Saudi princess witnessed her own brother and his best friend (who was studying to become a “HOLY MAN”) raping an 8 year old Egyptian girl and laughing whilst they did it. I have never been so disgusted with a nation as much as I have with the way Saudi Arabia treat women…… I too would love to go to Saudi Arabia like Cilla and fight for women’s rights but I fear I may be raped or hunted down and killed – and as Cilla said the Saudi women have got to WANT to do it too and obviously it’s hard for them as they live oppressed under extremist males.
And for all those Saudi’s making comments like “the same thing happens in Western countries” – take a closer look. There is a justice system in western countries – the man in Austria who held his daughter hostage and raped her for years is now in jail – he’s not a free man – he didn’t get away with his crime – yet if a young woman in Saudi Arabia was found in someones basement and said she had been held hostage for 24 years and had given birth to his children – she would be stoned to death for committing a sin and the man would go free. That’s the difference. Face the facts.
I read “Princess”, too. That is why I found this site…looking up “woman’s room” to research the type of punishment where a girl is locked in a windoless room til she dies and all sanctioned by the Koran, etc. I believe the original meaning has been mis-interpreted, though.
Well, stumbled upon this article.
From my experience they (Saudi men) act like they are stubborn or macho (only in front of nationalities he can afford to show-off, u know which are they and the ones which they can’t).. Their extreme disregard to humanity is notorious. Yeah I agree that all the educated Men I Interacted with were very nice BUT how many Saudi men can be considered as “educated” ? well, I would like to share an incident that happened right in front of me. A police man asked a guy the Iquama as he was standing in front of shop at night. The guy (expat) was frightened coz his Iqmama expired 15 days back. Cop checked the Iquama and said, well, ur Iqama is going to expire in 4 months, so u better renew it soon! damn, he can’t even read his own Language properly 🙂
Truth is that many of the dudes here are cowards and lives in a false sense of importance the oil wealth gave them. Everything other than driving and intercourse is complex to them. Look at the percent of expats working in key fields like telecom, petroleum etc, even after many years
they still can’t take control of things. (where ever they tried, they terribly failed)
It is true that if all expats leave , this Country would come to a STAND-STILL
Look at the way they treat people from diff: countries and cultures, Man that itself shows the fake ethics/morals and double standards .
i am an asian working in the middle east and i must say that barbarism, racism and women rights abuse are common here. Of course this arab people will deny everything that is really happening here
Dear Cilla
Please and kindly change the header as no one killed for some how
The story may be right but the photo !!
This girl and any girl should not distribute her Photo any where .
Internet is like the a cup can use for a milk or for alcohol. And all over the world mind have different mentality.
And any time you want to visit SAUDI my wife can show you the WORLD of SWEET Saudi .
Saudi Eng.
jus as ur name spells u r speakin a big bogus
OMG She Is Not Saudi
btw stop hating us
we dont hate u
i wish all the ppl love us as we love them
if u want to see the truth about america and thier games to let all over the world hate us just go to youtube and search about “the arrivels” i dont want u to see the religous thingy….!!!
i want u to see what they most of american what say about thier games to let u hate us from u were kids 😦
love & peace
A
I don’t think chatting with a man is a reason to kill her, it’s not even a sin. Which parent is killing his child? A beast not human. Even animals are taking care of their babies.That father will go to the hell for sure, and all the man who is treating bad a woman.
In western countries for abusing you go to jail, and the same happened with the man who raped her daughter.
We have rights and the law protects us we don’t get killed chatting. We are not forced in arranged marriages like in primitive muslim countries.
I heared you can get killed if you cheat on your husband in saudi becasue it’s a sin.
If woman is cheating is her choice, and she has a reason why (her husband from saudi is going in different countries looking for sex). The woman shouldn’t be punished, God will punish her. Her husband or father or brother are not God. Everybody will carry their sins with themselves and God will take care of it.
And let’s not talk about other muslim cultures that are good for the man only. marrying 4 women etc
And you little princess you are lucky you are in NY otherwise the saudi price would beat the princess out of you!!!!!!
as salamu 3laykum. Hello, Im a saudian girl and I must first excuse for my bad english…..And my post does not really arrive early^^ Well for sure speaking to stranger men is not right of her. But we all human and do mistake and our god is forgiving because hes the greatest. I do think she surly deserve autority of her parents but this is a way to hard and I feel very sorry about this situation. In our country its not welcome to contact to the other gender but still she does not deserve the death this is not in interest of islam. I do think theres other ways than violence for treatment and theres bad people everywhere not onls in ksa I just wish the world has not all a bad opinion about us. I wish everybody a good evening and take care. May Peace be upon you. salam
sweetheart, we do not need your fucking sympathy.
your argument should be critical and subjective to clarify the topic in a better vocabulary then slang street words! If you were a true gentlemen how respect himself well never replay to a women in such bad language !
Regards ,
shut up mother fucker! you muslim treat women only as a bedroom asset and when u are satisfied jus luk for a new one jus like a breeding cow. u ppl only know to satisfy ur lust and spreading diseases thru ur chopped penis
Hello
Good posts and good opinions from all sides, and i dont post much but felt this something that hits home close so i need to say something. I’m a muslim arab from Palestine, we dont have as strict traditions regarding women here, and i think thats mostly cause we been too busy worrying about findinga meal to eat and fighting an occupation that is 60+ years old. That said, i do see and read alot of stories about how muslim women are abused, and it makes me really sad to hear these stories of abuse and the media and perception is that it happends alot in all the middle east and alot in Saudia arabia, but it makes me sader when they associate that with Islam, as if Islam had told men when to do if and when they catch their daughter or sister on facebook. Lots of behaivor and acts are commited based on ignorance which then the doers(cowereds) blame or hide behind Islam as the reason they did it. The media, mostly the westers media or just anyone not familiar with Islam then associates it as an Islamic law or punishment , when it really had nothing to do with the religion of the person. I like the example that someone mentioned about the australian man rapping his own daugher and having kids from her for years, i dont remember anyone blaming his religion for his act, nor anyone elses religions for any mass murdered or rapist or abuser or murderer. We see lots of murders in the US and the world about husband killing wife for cheating or killing her lover and the wife, thats a love crime, but when it happends in the middle east, it gets branded as a muslim killing. The picture of the lady above made me almost cry, but I’v seen sicker photoes and heard worser stories about men in the west butchering or killing their wifes or kids or neiphbors or total strangers, point is, sick people all over the world. Yes, Islam does ask for women to dress appropriate and cover their hair and be modest in public, but the savage acts men do are their own sick acts that God will punish them for the sins.
Salam to every one .
I think it is very stupid to paste a photo and then ask to comment. Who will belive she is suadi or muslim. She may be Israeli and jewish and beated by Jewish police. there is nothing Written on her face that she is saudi. I hate the Jewish and US Prapeghanda. Islam is great religion. I am kuwaiti not saudi but I think Saudi and muslims old old culture is 10000 time better then the modrate or modren culture in US. Don’t forget US has 10 rapes of women each minute. and Los vegas is the safe city by having 60 murders each month.
and those murders and rapes are done none other by ur fuckin clan livin out there
There is a lot of abuse in the world and if we want to focus on women rights and freedom in Saudi Arabia we should educate ourselves about a vital information in the topic before we argue further. One example of good source for women rights can be obtained from the site :
http://www.themodernreligion.com/w_main.htm
In short, In a true Islamic society women have the following rights in Islam:
1. The right and duty to obtain education.
2. The right to have their own independent property.
3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.
4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.
5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.
6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.
7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.
8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can’t stand him.
9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).
10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.
11. custody of their children after divorce.
12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them.
NOTE: ANY ABUSE OR ACT OF VIOLENT ARE RELATED TO INDIVIDUALS BUT NOT ALL SOCIETY!!!!
Regards to you all,
muslims are the biggest fuckers in the world. they can hav sex with any woman they want but cannot tolerate their women (bitches) talking to a man.
and the clauses stated abov do not really hold, its jus a cheap joke cracked by those fuckin muslims. fuck mohammed bastard
culture differs from one country to another… what we need is due respect… each culture has its pro and cons as others may say it… but its in the practice that matters… i’d say that when you say anything negative of ones culture would only mean that you are still ignorant of what their culture is… when there is a person with that religion hurts another being based on his religion, then that person was not well educated enough about his/her religion… a muslim friend of mine said that their religion may be viewed negatively by others, its not because of the religion… its because of the uneducated muslims… coz the educated ones are really good… by the way when Ramadan came… i have never seen such dedication to religion than what my friend did… i’d be too lazy to do all those prayers and fastings for my own religion… im catholic and thought my God would understand if im not very devoted coz my God is understanding…
Hello .. I’m from Saudi Arabia and I am proud they are from Saudi Arabia to maintain debt, assets and is not like any other open-minded men get drunk and dancing with women and the sergeant and punishment I am a girl used all dating sites and chat with young people and consider them my brothers, but thought it would affect the physical or exercise Mai any kind of sex it is forbidden in our religion and prohibits sex between spouses, but we just as girls Arabiyat thank God so much because he proceeded to the men of Islam on the Preservation of their wives and women as a metaphor, a precious pearl disappear behind the cover
The woman isn’t Saudi Arabian for sure on that pic. I have seen the picture for a long time ago, and it said that she was an iranian woman, who was beating by the iranian government!
the pic is not important, the story is…..
I am a student in Saudi Arabia an appropriate manner and the secondary and listen to me this talk about Saudi women
A British study recently conducted on the as
The most beautiful woman in the world.
The study in this result on the tenderness that enjoyed by the Saudi girl and the amount of modesty visible in their actions.
As well as its unique ability to interact with fashion without losing a bit of a Hacmtha ..
The same study did not overlook the reference to the beauty of Saudi women
And considered the secrets of attraction to men as well as the abundant compassion inherent in her heart, love card, which supplies enough.
A study from the Centre for Research Starc British to the World Saudi girls are the most return for a set and respected in the world ..
Where the study was based on several things, including:
That the Saudi girl meet their requests without trouble, and the Saudi girl always by one serve, as well as it does not need to work Fmsrovha available to parents of its affairs without the need for action, and that their interest since birth until her death indicates that respect for ..
Description of the researcher Saudi girls that they are (((queens of the world))),
He says that the Queen does not even drive a servant girl who does that Saudi Arabia, like queens completely ”
It can not be seen only relative Muharram is a jewel ..
The study was conducted to take care of Slim and good looking and the interest of the Saudi girl beauty,
Says Mr. Christvuor Julail: The Saudi most beautiful, they are around covered the sun can not affect the natural Jhan and their bodies in the world ..
Therefore, the proportion has been added beauty to the research and study, which it won Saudi girls under the name:
(((More girl in the world return for a set and respect)))
i have no idea what you are going on about but i agree, they are most beautiful………. all the more reason to treat with respect, not contempt….
see it properly the pic might b of ur mother or even ur sister and tel her she’s not lookin hot
OK. I know it’s old stuff, but I’m a Saudi, And a professional in photography (the “forensics side” this photo been on the net for ages and every sick person who have nothing to do will attache this photo and comment on it as it’s happen yesterday. this a photo of a nude women been faked using photoshop, go and copy the photo and past it on your desktop, now open the photo by photoshop, used the small tool that tells you what the degree of color so you can copy the color and use it again, the marks on the nude women body will match the mark on the right high side of the photo that covers the copyright of the first owner, plus the ground color, it’s a simple easy thing no drama about it. omg I wast my time on this.
that’s right, concentrate on dispelling the photo and disregard the actual story…………..
I pray for those who still in their abandoned well, and my sisters of saudi, please remember god is not that much cheap to lift your skirt and separately treat his own creation for punishment? All gender is unique to him, you should think of freedom, otherwise think atleast from other angle too.. And realise allah then glorify him all across the world. Insha allah
i glorify allah by living freely…..
hmm… it’s to difficult to be a girl in saudi.
My point exactly! It shouldn’t be difficult!
C
HI MY LOVE
i am Filipino, I’ve been working in saudi for 5 years,,I support your opinion about saudi arabia,,not only that,,if only you could see the treatment of workers in some companies in saudi..their accomodation is like hell.a prison camp ,the WORSE!!! these company employ thausand of worker,yes they were given salaries but no payslip at all,,yah I know that coz some of my friends work there before,imagen that,,the worse!!! one of that company is involve in garbage collecting and they are known for that, coz’ they are the biggest garbage collector in the country,,(AL-ymm)
O please they deserve it.
Look at the way these women protest against the American way, what don’t you think they know their own way? Your just another drama queen.
Your ignorance of the real world is a farce at best.
I would love to see you go anywhere other than your own imagination, the women you think your going to help would smack you down and pimp you out.
Let me guess, ur an American male?
I doubt the authencity of this article, why this has not been published in any of the middle east news papers if not Saudi Papers. This is just another way to malign Islamic Countries. Nobody would kill his daughter just because she was online, Internet is available in almost every house, if this was the case then almost 50% of females would be killed because they were chatting.
i believe in freedom the woman in KSA must have the full rights like any other country the Arab tribes are complicated and especially in saudi arabia they have blind ideologie and extremes im from lebanon and i hope to see the changes in KSA life like hell over there i wish to the see a lots of changes in saudi arabia they cheating on their people out side ksa they follow the girls and play gamblers
all girls in saudi arabia from now lets we learn kung fu , 😀
i am a German
what a load of garbage and hypocracy these americans are spouting, their land is propably the most degenerate and perverted nation on earth. and they dare to question another culture and sexual customs which has nothing to do with america or its crappy values. and for those complaining of saudi racism against illegal africans, they have a right to, they are not arabs and if these reactions are deemed the best way to protect their kin within their customs then it is their business.
and rightly so the best thing independant nations can do is steer far away from american degenaracy and their so called human rights. My country unfortunately has fallen to this degeneracy since the end of the second w war and has had these american values put on us by the government they established here, the FRG. now my people are dwindling as birth rates fall and german ethnic identity dwindlles the country is dictatd solely by intrnationalist policies and not their own interests.
when will americans learn that not everyone wants to be a part of america
Hi Jan
This article is not about American culture & values & I am not American. You may wish to take that issue somewhere more appropriate.
Any culture that kills, abuses & disrespects their citizens is in breach of HUMAN rights & therefore it is EVERY HUMAN’S business..!
I don’t know much about the fall in German culture but I do know what indescribably horrific acts of anti-human basic rights your country allowed to happen not too long ago…
C.
hello
Iam muslim girl from ksa . Idont hate anybody iwish u all do .. And iam so happy here .. In the whole world there is murder .. I think that not true any way i love being saudi girl .. < excuse 4 the bad English
Salam
then u r a prostitute. and ya ask ur mother how many sex partners she has
we’re not like wt do some people think about us .. We dont hate any one ..
sorry but about the way we didnt take a pics like this..
well this is for all the people who are commenting on the women issue . if i say that you people should first hand take the issue of human rights violation in places like IRAQ , PALESTINE , AFGHANISTAN where not only women but men and children are killed by forces . how do people sitting in the west justify this . and why should i live my life the way the people in the west want me to . its my own decision and my own ideology that matters , I would humbly say that i don’t oppose any religion and respect every single human being and i also believe that every human life is priceless but what gives the right to power drunk people of the west to decide what we do or how we live . and for the record why people highlight the issues which a Muslim writer ( Muslim by name ) comes forward with and not the literature what millions of Muslim scholars write in favor of the peace loving religion . there are conspiracy theories for every even that has happened in the west which they blame Muslims for but i being a Muslim don’t hate the people of the west but the ideologies of some of them . for last but not the least i would like to tell all the world that we Muslims are literate enough to know what is good and what is bad for us we don’t need guidance from anyone and we are happy the way we live and i personally folly the saying (LIVE AND LET LIVE )
hiya guys …… well instead of caring or thinking about what happening in KSA OR any place in the middel east go and work make a future enjoy life party drink smoke what ever you want just dont concern a lot about our middel east world we are fine here just leave us alone and stop making wars for the reason PROTECT THE DEMOCRACY ,, i dont know is it protect the democracy or protect the natural gas and the petroleum .. you fucked iraq now iraq is worse then it was why some places in iraq nothing happend there the life is so cool and no killing and terrorists ( coz it have fule and gas and protected by usa government ) , what u are doing in Sudan now , and in Afghanistan before what about Palestine what about etc etc etc ….. when u care about a girl the her stupid mother fucker father killed her u have to care also about hunders of children’s that killed every day in Palestine + guys you killed each other for the religious and ethnicity did u forget what happend between Protestant and Catholics or between white and black or that guy the repaid his own doughtier or the one who like small kids man your world sucks ……… sorry for my english i am not American or uze or even from uk ,,, i am proudly arabs we dont use english much here but try to understand what i was saying
My regards …… Lebanese
My comment and advice for the women is that they should pls be dressing properly because walking naked is not good for women. I belived that the women are making the guy b/c of men and men does not walk naked so please my fellow women let us hide the beauty that god almghty allah gave to us thank you very much.
fron nigeria wasilat
The thing is lasisi wasilat, we’re not asking for your advice nor do we want it! We want to live and let live; can you do that?
As for your opinion and that is all it is, who are you to say what dressing properly is? who are you to tell us or anyone how to live their life? who the hell are you?????
You are EXACTLY what is WRONG with your culture..!
Women don’t MAKE you or any man do ANYTHING! Men are the species that make people do anything and try to control them as you are trying to do with your so-called advice!
Despite the fact that no woman in my country walks around naked, we should be able to! It’s natural and the way we were born…!!! We were not born with clothes on, clothes is only man-made & who says that’s the best thing?!!!!!
Hide beauty? What you men need to do is CONTROL yourself and be civil and polite and realise you can’t just TAKE what you want…! EVER! Nor blame beauty on your feral and unevolved and disgusting behaviour!
Do birds stop singing because it sounds too good? Do flowers hide their beauty because it may tempt you to crush them?
What rubbish you speak! You need to get a grip on what life is really about!
HIDE YOUR BEAUTY?????…SO A MAN CAN’T ET EXCITED AND THINK SEX THOUGHTS OR RAPE YOU? wHAT ABOUT MAKING HANDSOM MEN DRESS LIKE NINJAS AND HIDE THEIR “BEAUTY” TOO??
Dear Cilla,
I appreciate your efforts to speak up for your fellow women who are being tortured in such countries. Wish I could do something to protect such women, but my own life is at risk. I’m an ex muslim and being an apostate in an Islamic country means you’re going to sentenced for death.
Keep up the good work 🙂
God Bless You, if he exists 😀
Shahnawaz
Thank you Shahnawaz but sorry to read of your predicament! If there is anything I can do, please let me know. Otherwise, my very best wishes & hopes for a new era to dawn.
C.
dont worry sara one day ur father will f@*k you
Hi,
Take care of those sisters of yours who turn porn movies and show their naked bodies on the internet, street, pubs…etc Those who destroyed all barriers between shame and social respect. Saudian are living upon their own rules for centuries and everyone is acquainted and satisfied with them over there, unless you decide to make a rebilion and pay for it. Nobody ignore laws !
If you really wanted to help your “sisters” go help the ones who suffer from the war imposed by israel. Thousands of palestinian women and girls are in the need for food, clothes, houses, financial support and education as a final point.
Stop acting and taking people for donkeys, because we all know that the purpose of your site isn’t helping but creating trouble.
Peace
Hi
While I don’t watch porn I have nothing against those who choose to express themself in that way because that is what freedom is all about!
I am not sure where u live but as I have said before, noone here walks around naked! And if they did I still wouldn’t mind so long as they look after themself & were good to look at! 🙂
WRONG! Saudi men do as they wish & make laws to control their female population & decent people who oppose such anti freedom & civil right laws & kill, torture & disrepect those who oppose.
In a humane & free society laws are there to PROTECT & SERVE the people not CONTROL!
C.
Honestly you are naive in thinking that Arab women are powerless..
If you want to look at this case and pity us thinking we have no rights, then you are a fool and you should probably pick up a book or to about Islam… You might learn that Islam is the ONLY religion that has the utmost respect for women, and demands it.
A woman in the Arab and Islamic world is put on a pedestal. True there are cases such as the one you’ve presented but compare our numbers with those of the western world… How many women disrespected and insulted… How many beaten and abused… How many raped and murdered!!
DO NOT feel sorry for us… Arab Women are strong and respected…
I feel sorry for YOU.
Arab women are powerless while your freedom to choose your own life & your civil rights are stolen from you..!
Who wants to be on a pedestal? Pride goeth before the fall… I prefer freedom anyday..
Yes, sadly there is still a ways to go before women all over the world are completely respected but those who do not don’t even respect themself! At least we have our basic rights, which is what I wish for them.
Yes, you would need to be strong to put up with such lack of respect & dignity & still go on with life but I don’t see that as strength, I see that as broken..! I think fighting for your rights instead of taking the abuse laying down would require more strength….
C.
Uh,….ONLY religion that respects women? COME ON!!! Fundamental Protestantism has women leaders in their churches and preachers!! Can Islam boast that?? Come on….if a woman said anything she would be beaten by her husband and the police would say it’s ok…she’s his property!!
who is this in picture ?
I am a Saudi woman, and after i read all your comments, I am telling you that WE DO NOT NEED YOUR HELP.
this is just a liers to make others heat saudi people… we love respect our ladies and this all news just liers and very fact from the real facts ….
I am a white Catholic female in the U.S. I am currently in college and while attending I met some people from Saudi Arabia. There are 9 men total that I am great friends with. To say what I have experienced with being best friends with a Saudi Arabian man, they are more respectful than any other man I’ve ever met in my own country (USA). That is sad for me to say, but it’s the truth. These guys that I am best friends with have white, Catholic girlfriends. These women are treated like princesses and loved truly. I will not lie, before I met them, I thought they were like what the media portrayed and had the same stereotype that most Americans have about them. The stereotype could not be any more wrong. I now have respect for every culture especially the Saudi culture, I honestly think our men could learn something from the men over there. I will also add that was a homeless broke college student when I first met them. They have helped me out so much with rides to school, helping me find a place to live, and they were feeding me for over a month because I couldn’t find a job. I will also add that I am a very attractive girl who has a lot of American guy friends, and sadly enough, were any of them there for me when I needed them? NO, because I wouldn’t have sex with them, and none of my Saudi friends have ever gotten anything except my friendship in return and they are still grateful.
OMG .. who need help ? I am sure we don’t need help !
every country (English men) helped them it turn to hell (Iraq, Afghanistan, Somali, ….etc.. SORRY.. No vacant in Saudi Arabia..if some one want to fix a thing … he should start with his own then help people fixing theirs !
Really?
Are serious ! that never happened in Saudi Arabia , Im a saudi arabian and im telling you that never happened , this just disgust me , seeing such an ignorant bunch of losers sabotage our country`s reputation . keep on being lied 2 =)
Hi Cilla
i just told my friend that you could express about our feelings like if you were in our place !
thank you for your honest feelings, i really could feel your words